THE GOODREADS KINDLE FORUM INTERVEW - PART TWO
A couple of weeks ago, I was invited to be the subject of a live web-chat by the lovely people of the Goodreads Kindle Forum. It was a long and enjoyable night, in which I learnt as much about myself as others perhaps did.
Funny, not until you're having to answer questions fired at you at a million miles an hour do you sometimes see the spaces between the words.
If you missed it, PART ONE of the interview can be found here
And here comes the final part . . .
Hope you enjoy.
All the best,
Ian
PART TWO:
Anyway,
Ian. Do you think your publisher will stay with KDP Select after the
ninety days and branch out into Smashwords etc?
Tricky one. I can't speak for Caffeine Nights, but my feeling about KDP is that the exclusivity demanded by Amazon leaves a bad taste in the mouth. That's why I would never use it for anything I may publish myself.
Smidgen,
Splinters, Wafflemaker... The names of your characters are obviously
important. Where do they come from?
Honestly,
that's what their names are. Who am I to change a character's name,
just because it sounds funny.
Bit of a
Dickens thing going on there :)
I love
Dickens, so probably deep in me psyche somewhere, he's sitting about,
having a right laugh.
Perhaps
you could run a competition to name incidental characters in the
sequal?
I've seen a
few people do that, and it's a great idea. Thing is, these characters
have already got names. Would be a bit rude foisting another on on
them. I like that word. Foisting.
Silus
Mange? Able Cocknocker?
Ian,
from some of the words you have been using in describing the way you
write, it feels to me like writing for you is a very "spiritual"
process... is it ?
Very much
so. A sort of channelling sort of thing. Really hard to explain
without coming across as completely loony, but it's just the way I
write now.
I was
actually going to say channelling myself... so i totally understand
what you mean :)
Great
news re sequel, will we see more of Harry Wilkins?
I warmed to him
at the end of the book.
I don't
know if Harry will play a part yet, as I have no idea what will be
happening. In AWM, I had no idea where each chapter would lead. I
just listened and watched inside my head, and wrote. It's like AWM2
is already written, and it's just a case of me tuning in and writing
it down. I like Harry. I hope to see him again.
If
pushed to compare your style to any other writer's I'd take a pass.
AWM is so unique in its mixture of subtle elegance and graphic style,
that's a hard thing to do. If pushed really hard I'd say Ellroy (the
early Ellroy of the L.A. Quartet era.) Do you have any comparisons
that you think would be valid. (C'mon now. Don't be modest.)
Blimey.
That's a hard one. I know there are elements of Virginia Woolf in
there - all the visceral stuff, you know. And the Ellroy clipped
sentences, yeah, I can see that. LA Confidential was hugely
influential when I read it. I had no idea you were allowed to write
like that.
And I think Hemingway is in there somewhere too.
I'd also
say that Ray Bradbury should be included. For the poetic images and
mythic references of the characters. Arthurian legend comes right to
mind.
Never read
any Bradbury, AJ, much to my shame. He's on me list, though. And I
did pick up a sort of mythic quality to the whole thing, with Kenny
at the heart.
Can you
see yourself writing a novel from a third person perspective as
opposed to first person?
I'm not
sure I could. It's the voice thing, you know. I do a few short
stories in that sort of distant omniscient wotsit, but I don't know
if I could stand writing a novel like that. I suppose I need to be on
the inside, feeling what the characters feel, and third person is
something I find really hard to write and achieve that same level of
intimacy.
Do you
start with a title and then write, or write then come up with a
title? How do you come up with said title, is it a case of picking it
out of a hat? (:
With the
short stories, the title comes in pretty much immediately, although I
never start with it. I always start with a feeling, a moment, and
just go from there.
The title for AWM was provisionally Fortunes
Always Hiding - a line from Bubbles - the West Ham song. Was a friend
of mine that read an early draft and pointed out not only was ABIDE
WITH ME a pivotal moment in the book - being sung at the cup final -
but it was also the sentiment that tied the whole book together. When
she said that, it was like the title revealed itself all in a
flash.
I love it when that happens.
Kenny
never actually spoke in AWM. Was this a conscious decision?
Funny, but
I didn't realise either till I read the first draft. Then it sort of
made sense. So a couple of places where he did speak, I made a
conscious decision to alter them. So sort of conscious and sort of
not, really.
Going
through the reviews, it seems that one of the "things" that
made your book a success with so many readers is the use of the East
end local lingo. Was it easy to write? I mean if you're used to
typing standard English stuff, was it hard to change, or did the
words just come naturally?
It really
was just a matter of listening to the voice speaking in my head, and
making sure I wrote it down accurately. Because I speak pretty much
like John in the book, although not quite so sweary, it wasn't too
difficult as, say, if he were a Geordie or something.
And the
standard English thing, I've never really done that to any great
degree.
I know
you write organically with very little planning. Any plans to write
something that is more plotted beforehand?
I've tried,
mate. On a couple of short stories. But it just doesn't work for me.
Feels too constrained, as if I'm in control. For me, it's all about
letting the characters tell their story. If I try and force them in a
certain direction, they just sort of clam up. Can't blame them,
really.
It's the
dialogue (and in this case, the internal dialogue as well) that can
make or break a novel. In AWM it rings completely true.
A lot of
the dialogue, I re-enacted wandering around the front room, just so I
made sure I'd got it right. Tescos queues were another one. Got some
right looks there.
And as I said to AJ earlier, it's a real rhythm
thing. A sort of feeling. I would get a little twinge if something
wasn't quite right, a sort of jarring feeling. Then I'd just listen a
little closer till I got it right.
Do you
feel that the local language adds to the identity of a person/of a
community? Do you feel that it helps a person integrate/feel part of
that community to a certain extent?
I think a
local dialect can be both inclusive and exclusive. During my
counselling training, I was once in a class full of middle class
Essex women in the power suits and their delicate sensibilities. When
I turned up with my Dagenham top and my dropped aitches, yet still
got top marks, I'd never felt more discriminated against.
I feel
that Kenny kind of reminds me of Lennie from Of Mice and Men...
Funny, my
publisher pointed that out as well, Rosemary. He referred to AWM as
'Of Mice and Men' for the East End. And I suppose the similarities
are pretty clear. I think there are definite differences, but it's a
valid comparison.
Terry
Pratchett said at a signing that "Your subconscious knows the
complete story, soup to nuts, but it doesn't want you to have it
until you earn it by doing things like endlessly mowing the lawn or
washing the windows or feeding the dog or doing other deadly dull
chores until it gets bored and finally throws the thing at you with
an All Right! Here it is! For God's sake,write it! Remark."
Does that kind of inspiration strike you when you need it most?
I love
that. And, yep, I'm a great believer in the whole story being
written, ready and waiting, until the writer is at a time in his life
where he needs to write it.
And I like King's archeaology analogy
as well.
I
believe the same about reading a book... Sometimes if you can’t get
into a book, maybe you are just not ready for what it contains. It is
why i usually just put them to one side rather than sack them off
completely (apart from the ones that are just rubbish of course, that
is a completely different thing!)
Very true.
I'm still waiting for the time in my life when I can start ploughing
through that pile of Jackie Collins classics by the back door.
A tutor
at college, a sculptor, said the work was waiting in the block of
stone. It was his job to do the work and get it out, release it.
Sounds like that's a bit like how you approach your writing
Ian?
(this is getting a bit deep, huh!)
That's a
great analogy. And yes, almost identical. Steven King said writing is
akin to archaeology, all about working down the layers to the truth
beneath - then writing the truth.
I love that sort of stuff ;)
How was
AWM received locally?
One of my
main priorities was that the West Ham sections of the book came
across as genuine. To this end, I posted the relevant chapters on a
couple of die-hard West Ham forums, and braced myself for the worst.
The feedback was absolutely unanimous. The most commented comment was
that it was just like being at the game, and all the other things
rang completely true. The local book signings - Basildon and Romford
- were fantastic, so I'm pretty confident I've struck the right note
locally - which is nice :)
And
considering you've been featured in a few local newspapers and all
that... have people stopped you in the street to grab an autograph
yet?
Not yet -
thankfully. Although I was in the Romford Waterstones a couple of
weeks back, and someone asked if I could sign a bookmark for them, if
that counts :)
I liken
the "unintelligent" Kenny/Lenny character back the mythic
icon known as The Holy Fool so the pedigree for that character is an
honourable trope in any form of fiction. Did you have in mind that
archetype, Ian? Or was Kenny an existing person to whom you assigned
the characteristics?
There
really is a deeper layer there. And I think with the Holy Fool trope
you're pretty close. You know me, mate. I just write. For me, Kenny
is as real as anyone I know. If he represented a trope, I wasn't
aware of it at the time. But then again, I suppose all the archetypes
are an unconscious thing anyway, aren't they.
A couple of people
have mentioned to me the resurrection myth, and thinking on it, I
think there might be something in that . . .
Do you
have any more booksigning sessions planned? Are you staying in your
area or will you be travelling further over the months?
Walthamstow
Waterstones is the last planned one, and that's tomorrow. I'll be at
the Tonbridge Arts Festival on the 23rd June with a bunch of other
Caffeine Nights authors, which should be a fantastic day. Romford,
Basildon, and Lakeside Waterstones have asked me to do another
signing later in the year, as have The Newham Bookshop. We're looking
to hit Brentwood and Southend Waterstones later in the year also.
Not
coming north of the Border then? Got some good book festivals up
here, Lennoxlove's just along the road...
Would love
to. But not being able to drive and not having any pennies or sticks
or pretty much of anything to rub together, I reckon Walthamstow's
the furthest north I'll get this time round :{
[Ian’s
turn to ask questions]Anyone got any thoughts on the vast amount of
naughty words in the book?
*
Actually do you know Ian, I hardly noticed them. It was part of the
idioglossia (I may have just made that word up?)
* Nope,
even my mum and Dad said that although there was a lot, it was in
character and helped make John 'John'
* I
agree, I couldn't imagine John any other way, it just wouldn't be the
same
So relieved
your mum and dad weren't offended. Funny, by the end I knew if I
stuck in an extra naughty one. It stood out a mile. And I really
struggled with the final sentence, until I realised a naughty word
was missing. Popped it in, and the whole world fell into place nice
:)
* Dad
has been recommending it to anyone who will listen! ! (praise indeed)
Have even had to lend out one of my signed copies!
Blown me
away, the different sorts of people that have been recommending the
book. Proper blown me away :)
*
They're great from a non-native point of view, lots of new vocabulary
!
* Pretty
tame compared to the language where i work actually! and IMO totally
within the context of the book and characters...
The context
was the thing for me. At no time did I feel the need to really
apologise, although I was very conscious of the potential negative
impact it might have on readers.
* Maybe
it was also a kind of a filter to ensure that the book reached the
required audience...
like if you didn’t get on with the language
(vernacular and swearing) then the book wasn't meant for you...
Very wise.
I love that. I must say, I was expecting far more of a negative
response to the language than I've actually got. So I think you might
have something there . . . :)
*
Yeah but so many readers saw it as a positive thing too !
* When I
read it I became conscious of how much me and my mates swear just in
the course of normal conversation in the pub. So definitely
realistic!
That's what
I found with the whole book. Being a single narrative, I was able to
read the whole thing out and pick up anything missing. Just that
naturalistic thing, you know.
Can I
ask both Ian and Stu... Do you find that you have a bond through
writing (I mean other than being twins and all that)... or do you try
to not get involved in each other's projects? (Edit: I don't mean in
a non-supportive way)
Ian:
:) The thing I find interesting, is how completely differently me and
Stu write. We are very different characters in real life too. In a
funny sort of way, I sometimes think my kind of writing fits Stu's
more outgoing personality more than mine, and perhaps my more quiet
nature is more akin to Stuart's beautiful prose. But it's not like
that at all. We both feel a need to speak the truth as we see it. And
therein lies the bond.
That's what I reckon.
What do you think,
Stu?
Stu:
I like to think that there's a mutual thing that although our stuff
is completely different it is still in some way distilled from the
basic values we grew up with.
[Last
question of the night] AWM2… Is it going to be about Johnny again,
or is it about other people but in the same background as AWM?
[Funnily
enough, this question remained unanswered…]